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Topic: I Was Thinking....... (Read [an error occurred while processing this directive] times)
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no1cowgirl
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posted June 06, 2000 01:42 PM
  
So I was up last night studing for my new job....and I was watching the Box (it's an all-request music station). And Jay-Z's video, 'Big Pimpin' came on. Well, I was watching it...I LOVE that song *L* don't get me wrong, but then I started thinking.
In the video....there's girls in bikini's all over...dancing all provacatively and all. And the guest rappers in there have got, ya know half-pint bottles of liquor and everything and they are just partying it up. And I started thinkin some more (by this time, my head hurts *L*). If I was a mother of a young child, would I want them to see this? Would this be a good role model for my child? HECK NO! *L* Like I said, I love the music....but you look at so many rock, rap and even some country (country isn't half as bad) music videos....and they are just so corrupted *L*
So what this all comes down to--I know that almost everybody here...like %99.9, if not %100 of all people here think that Garth is a good role model. I was wondering, who else do you think is a great role model?
Krista
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Snow
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posted June 06, 2000 01:48 PM
Hmmmmmmm....... since you already have all those great opinions... I hoping that YOU'LL be a great role model!!! Maybe you'll be in the position soon to make a difference.  You're right though. I think Garth has been a good role model and there are few to be found these days like him.... at least in the entertainment business. Rap seems to be one part of the business where keeping a good image is hard. It almost seems to hurt them. I think Will Smith does a pretty good job... but then again he's often dismissed because he's too soft. IP: Logged |
no1cowgirl
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posted June 06, 2000 01:59 PM
Snow-
Oh! I totally agree! Will Smith is a wonderful role model. And, yeah, he is written off as soft. The thing is, though, I have the world of respct fer him because he is out there with a great image, and great music that lil kids can listen to and their parents don't have to worry about him cussing, talking about killin or shooting or anything.
Good point!
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Pilgrim
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posted June 06, 2000 02:00 PM
Hmmm outside country?Springsteen is definitely a good role model, and has been it for years now *LOL* Now it's getting tough  I can't think of any RAP artist that is a good role model, except as Snow say Will Smith, but he is not big enough to carry that load. Oh Marilyn Manson is a GOOD role model  Michael Jackson is a good role model for the peadophile community around the world Brian IP: Logged |
Hawk7lte
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posted June 06, 2000 02:08 PM
Yep;Garth
Will Smith
George Strait
Little Richard
John Travolta
Jeff Rosebloom
Anthony Hopkins
Brad Pitt (especially lately)
Sean Connery
Paul McCartney
Bob Hope
Paul Newman (Right off the top of my head) Are we just sticking to living male entertainers? Hawk IP: Logged |
no1cowgirl
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posted June 06, 2000 02:13 PM
Hawk-
No....maybe I wasn't clear enough *S* *L* This is whoever YOU think....ANYONE....it can be a singer, actor/actress, etc.....anyone famous who you think is a good role model! *S* Not just males, not just females....ANYWBODY! *S*Krista IP: Logged |
minnesotagbfan
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posted June 06, 2000 03:02 PM
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no1cowgirl
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posted June 06, 2000 03:29 PM
*LOL* I'm watching MTV now....Eminem's new video....Speaking of Will Smith *L* 'Will Smith don't cuss in his rap to sell records,
Well, I do,
So **** him,
And **** you too....' Slim Shady sure ain't afraid to say what he wants *L* that's good, to a point *L* HE SURE DOES LIKE WILL SMITH! *Rolls Eyes* Krista IP: Logged |
Teach
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posted June 06, 2000 04:36 PM
What about Sammy Sousa and Mark McGuire. I think they are both good role models. IP: Logged |
Pilgrim
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posted June 06, 2000 05:59 PM
Teach I don't think Mark is a good role model I don't think a sportsfigure who boast about how many steroids he take is a good role model. Especially not when you know how dangerous that stuff is But that's just my opinion I would go for a clean sport any time  I am looking forward to see what will happen at the olympics with the baseball players Brian IP: Logged |
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posted June 06, 2000 06:28 PM
Brian,Mark McGuire don't use Steriods... it's called actually working out.. getting your muscles the HARD WAY. Jason IP: Logged |
Palle
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posted June 06, 2000 06:46 PM
Jason,McGuire takes an illegal medicament (once again I am not sure of the word - happens a lot tonight ). BUT it is legal in USA, but illegal in the rest of the world. It is the same as the female runner who died last year (forgot her name - not my night at all) was taking. He did say this on TV, and Europe went nutts, as this is known as being extremely dangerous, and may cause heart troubles. Bottom line he don't get those muscles the HARD WAY, but the CHEATING WAY
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Pilgrim
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posted June 06, 2000 06:50 PM
Jason YES he does  Florence Griffith-Joyner died because of that So it has nothing at all to do with the hard way. Brian IP: Logged |
Pilgrim
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posted June 06, 2000 06:52 PM
Of course I have to agree with Palle He is always right Could it be testoterone(sp?)? SNOW you are the expert Brian IP: Logged |
Snow
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posted June 06, 2000 07:15 PM
The dietary supplement taken by Mark McGwire is androstenedione or known by users simply as andro. quote:
When master homerun hitter Mark McGwire of the St. Louis Cardinals publicly acknowledged taking the dietary supplement androstenedione, its sales among young adults increased fivefold. Now, a new study suggests the pills may cause serious side effects by raising hormone levels. Available at health-food stores across the United States, androstenedione, commonly called andro, taken at high enough levels can raise male hormones -- testosterone -- and female hormones -- estrogen, according the study, conducted at Massachusetts General Hospital. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not regulate the sale of andro.
It has not been regulated yet because there are conflicting studies about whether it actually does promote muscle growth. Studies for the most part have shown that when used as recommended as a health food suppliemnt... it is not harmful... but it doesn't do anything to help promote muscle growth either. The thing is ... athletes often don't use the health food store variety. They have it directly injected into the vein or take massive amounts of the pill form. We just don't know enough about it to say yet. I do think it's disturbing that so many young people have followed Mark's example. In his defense... he says he no longer takes it... and he does not promote it. The damage is already done though it seems.
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Snow
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posted June 06, 2000 07:22 PM
After reading that post... I realized I didn't really clear up the question as to whether he was taking anabolic steroids.Anabolic steroids are a synthetic form of the male hormone testosterone. As of right now Androstenedione is not considered an anabolic steroid... though that could change. A dangerous side effect of Androstenedione is rather surprising. It can actually raise the level of the female hormone estrogen in the body. Higher estrogen levels in men can increase the risk of heart and pancreas problems. The men who took androstenedione also developed changes in blood cholesterol.
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Pilgrim
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posted June 06, 2000 07:31 PM
*ROFL* Snow quote:
A dangerous side effect of Androstenedione is rather surprising. It can actually raise the level of the female hormone estrogen in the body.
Then he could compete against the female Chinese swimmers Brian IP: Logged |
Snow
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posted June 06, 2000 07:42 PM
*LOL*... I suppose so Brian. It is both a habit of mine and others to call estrogen a female hormone and testosterone a male hormone.The truth is that males have both testosterone and estrogen... and females have both as well. Testosterone is higher in males. Testosterone is largely responsible for muscle development in both males and females. Since males produce more of the hormone... then they are (in the majority of the cases) able to build larger muscle mass than females. Female body builders actually have to work much harder to get the body builder look than males do. Testosterone also promotes the development of secondary male sexual characteristics such as facial hair and deep voices. Too much testosterone can cause serious side effects though... hostile behavior and mood swings being the least of it... not to mention loss of sexual function and the shrinkage of genitalia. NOT a good hormone to abuse for young males. IP: Logged |
