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    How will Garth respond?

    A recent Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) ruling brought great news for songwriters in the US – with royalty rates for streaming and other mechanical uses set to rise 44% in the market.

    Spotify and Amazon have now officially come out in opposition to the ruling, in what the National Music Publishers Association (NMPA) has called a “shameful” move which equates to “suing songwriters”.

    On January 27, 2018 MBW reported on the CRB’s landmark decision, which stated that royalty rates paid to songwriters in the US from on-demand subscription streaming would rise by 44% over the next five years. That decision was ratified last month (February 5), when the CRB published the final rates and terms for songwriters.

    Streaming companies were given 30 days to lodge official opposition to the ruling if they wished. The likes of Apple Music declined to do so – but it’s a different case for Spotify and Amazon, which have now both filed a notice of appeal. Pandora and Google have also asked the CRB to review its decision.

    In a statement today (March 7), the NMPA said that a “huge victory for songwriters is now in jeopardy” due to the streaming services’ filings.

    NMPA President & CEO David Israelite commented: “When the Music Modernization Act became law, there was hope it signaled a new day of improved relations between digital music services and songwriters.

    “That hope was snuffed out today when Spotify and Amazon decided to sue songwriters in a shameful attempt to cut their payments by nearly one-third.

    “The Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) spent two years reading thousands of pages of briefs and hearing from dozens of witnesses while both sides spent tens of millions of dollars on attorneys arguing over the worth of songs to the giant technology companies who run streaming services.

    “The CRB’s final determination gave songwriters only their second meaningful rate increase in 110 years. Instead of accepting the CRB’s decision which still values songs less than their fair market value, Spotify and Amazon have declared war on the songwriting community by appealing that decision.”

    In a clearly furious statement, Israelite continued: “No amount of insincere and hollow public relations gestures such as throwing parties or buying billboards of congratulations or naming songwriters ‘geniuses’ can hide the fact that these big tech bullies do not respect or value the songwriters who make their businesses possible.

    “We thank Apple Music for accepting the CRB decision and continuing its practice of being a friend to songwriters. While Spotify and Amazon surely hope this will play out in a quiet appellate courtroom, every songwriter and every fan of music should stand up and take notice. We will fight with every available resource to protect the CRB’s decision.”

    NSAI (Nashville Songwriters Association International) Executive Director Bart Herbison stated, “It is unfortunate that Amazon and Spotify decided to file an appeal on the CRB’s decision to pay American songwriters higher digital mechanical royalties. Many songwriters have found it difficult to stay in the profession in the era of streaming music. You cannot feed a family when you earn hundreds of dollars for millions of streams.

    “Spotify specifically continues to try and depress royalties to songwriters around the globe as illustrated by their recent moves in India. Trying to work together as partners toward a robust future in the digital music era is difficult when any streaming company fails to recognize the value of a songwriter’s contribution to their business.”

    Based on today’s actions, NMPA will also file a notice of appeal.

    In a joint statement, Google, Pandora and Spotify – who are all asking the US Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to review the CRB’s recent decision – said:

    “The Copyright Royalty Board (CRB), in a split decision, recently issued the U.S. mechanical statutory rates in a manner that raises serious procedural and substantive concerns.

    “If left to stand, the CRB’s decision harms both music licensees and copyright owners. Accordingly, we are asking the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to review the decision.”Music Business Worldwide

    https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.c...i3EkldDoA50wIU

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    Now thats a question for #askGarth

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    I would really love to see Garth question in depth on this, and I really think he would give indepth answers, for his love and support of song writers.

    I hope he does talk of it.

    He might have an out clause with his contract, that will allow him to leave, in the short term he will stay, but he may end up leaving long term because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Dale View Post
    I would really love to see Garth question in depth on this, and I really think he would give indepth answers, for his love and support of song writers.

    I hope he does talk of it.

    He might have an out clause with his contract, that will allow him to leave, in the short term he will stay, but he may end up leaving long term because of this.
    I could be wrong, but I also suspect (much like the stern/rogan thing) he'll go nowhere near this - ask about it on inside studio G.. your question will be ignored...

    It's an interesting point though... what is garth gonna do.. he's all about the song writers, etc... yet you have two sides to things...

    his bread/butter/music partner/bailer out of ghost tunes/etc/tour sponsor/you name it... - Amazon... backs something that apparently hurts songwriters...

    yet his controlling nemesis/doesn't like songwriters, great people yet we're not gonna go there - Apple.... sports a reaction that helps / is friendly to songwriters.....


    interesting.......


    I wil say, I smiled at this quote

    “We thank Apple Music for accepting the CRB decision and continuing its practice of being a friend to songwriters.

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    I agree with you Skywise, he's not going to mention it. But the fact that he's partnered with Amazon and their essentially suing songwriters by taking this court make him look like a hypocrite.

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    Well there is a press conference Friday in St Louis ( I know its about his st Louis concert) but if a reporter who's done their
    research, asks the question, hes going to at least have to address the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimpy77 View Post
    I agree with you Skywise, he's not going to mention it. But the fact that he's partnered with Amazon and their essentially suing songwriters by taking this court make him look like a hypocrite.
    I can agree with that statement....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Dale View Post
    Well there is a press conference Friday in St Louis ( I know its about his st Louis concert) but if a reporter who's done their
    research, asks the question, hes going to at least have to address the question.

    Brett... I'd be willing to bet that

    #1- no one's going to ask the question.... they're not there for that type of questioning..

    #2 though. IF someone were to ask about that, Garth would feign ignorance to a point / deflect / redirect the question/ in short, answer without actually answering the question..

    it's possible I'm wrong... would frankly like to be wrong as I'd be interested to hear his answers, but I doubt he's gonna go anywhere near that topic in an answer or on his own
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