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    Allison Miranda

    Can somebody please explain what Garth is going on about near the end of the song:

    You can not grow a flower
    If you do not have a seed
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    She wanted a baby, but didn't have a 'seed'.

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    Yeah...

    Well I have a few thoughts on this:

    1) She'd had a sex change
    2) She was infertile - but why would that make her leave him
    3) He was infertile

    It's not very clear and I like clear.

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    a sex change? (lol)

    actually, it's pretty clear-

    they're both searching for something- she found what she wanted- and now she was off again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywise
    a sex change? (lol)

    actually, it's pretty clear-

    they're both searching for something- she found what she wanted- and now she was off again
    lol
    i agree with the second bit i mean thats wat i thought he meant by it at least

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    i had another think about it last night and have realised what it's all about now. The problem is I've only really listened to the CD while driving so my thoughts haven't been completely on the song.

    Anyway I think what the ending means is that she was only interested in becoming pregnant, which was why she was hanging around. Then when she found out that she was pregnant she left him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n_s_simpson
    Anyway I think what the ending means is that she was only interested in becoming pregnant, which was why she was hanging around. Then when she found out that she was pregnant she left him.
    Sounds about right to me.. I think that cheesy Scandinavian duo Roxette did a song called "All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You" which was the same kind of story to it.

    They meet up, they knock boots, she runs off and has his kid. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ireland-&-Back
    Sounds about right to me.. I think that cheesy Scandinavian duo Roxette did a song called "All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You" which was the same kind of story to it.

    They meet up, they knock boots, she runs off and has his kid. lol
    I think that's the great female rock duo Heart, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandis
    I think that's the great female rock duo Heart, actually.
    I stand corrected, and embarrassed at my lack of mid 90's cheese knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandis
    I think that's the great female rock duo Heart, actually.
    it is Heart.. one of their only good songs...
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    Pregnante?

    Ok so at first i thought she was pregnant to but you cant you find out your pregnant in 3 days (unless theres some new pregnancy test out there that i dont no about!)? So then why'd she leave?

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    I don't think the song refers to waiting to take a pregnancy test until it's positive, it's more of just a feeling a woman gets...she just "knows".

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    Besides... it's a song.

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    But look at the lyrics again.

    Now I can't forget the morning when I woke alone in bed
    To a rose left on her pillow and a good-bye note that read
    You cannot grow a flower if you do not have the seed
    Now I've got everything I need

    If it was a pregnancy she was after, the last line would say "now SHE'S got everything SHE needs", but it doesn't. it says now HE'S got everything HE needs. I seem to remember garth referring to songs as seeds, but i can't find the quote so i could be mistaken. but what if that is what he means by seeds. she comes into his life, there's a whirlwind of passion, then leaves him with the memory that he can't get over. He'll always wonder where she is, what she's doing now. so if the songs are seeds, he does have everything he needs. He'll never run out of things to write about, and goes on writing songs about her...like What's she doing now, That summer, The Red Strokes, etc. etc. etc.

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    They lyrics say "I've got everything I need", and he was quoting from the note "she" left him on the pillow, as you stated in your post. :shrug:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlsr
    But look at the lyrics again.

    Now I can't forget the morning when I woke alone in bed
    To a rose left on her pillow and a good-bye note that read
    You cannot grow a flower if you do not have the seed
    Now I've got everything I need

    If it was a pregnancy she was after, the last line would say "now SHE'S got everything SHE needs", but it doesn't. it says now HE'S got everything HE needs. I seem to remember garth referring to songs as seeds, but i can't find the quote so i could be mistaken. but what if that is what he means by seeds. she comes into his life, there's a whirlwind of passion, then leaves him with the memory that he can't get over. He'll always wonder where she is, what she's doing now. so if the songs are seeds, he does have everything he needs. He'll never run out of things to write about, and goes on writing songs about her...like What's she doing now, That summer, The Red Strokes, etc. etc. etc.
    ehh- the line is "I've got everything I need' and it's referring to the woman...
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    "It's about protecting the seed."

    Here's one that could launch a whole thread. Or for me, a book even. But like I've said, though I could write a book, I'm no writer. This was spoken by Garth after introducing Tony Ararta for the second time on the Songwriters Celebration "stage" at Green's Grocery, in conclusion of why they as songwriters were gathered there. This impacted me to attention about the music I love big time and reassures me I'm not just dreaming with how Garth has made me feel like a crucial part of the good fight for that music they create.

    "If I may tonight, I don't know why tonight is, I know why I'm here and I know what I got from tonight. Tonight's about something far, far..really, really powerful and hard to understand if you're not from this field of art. It's about protecting the seed. Because without the songwriters we're not gonna have songs. And we're sure not gonna have any songs that move us like what has happened throughout all the evening here. So I guess the plea that goes out is just please, ah, be responsible and know, ah, that it's somebody's art and it's somebody's heart and if we do not give it the protection it needs, I know it's gonna sound crazy, but it is going to die, and it's up to us to preserve our art, ah, in America and all over the world. So, ah hats off to the songwriters. We protect them, everything else is gonna take care of itself."

    When I listened to Garth I did not think he meant we need to hold onto our opinion about the music, but rather, eachother and the way it moves us together rather than apart. I'm no songwriter or anything, but I do believe part of the reason for this celebration was trying to help us, the people, see their side of it and strengthen our support so the music doesn't die. And thereby, us with it? Maybe this is also why Garth says Chris has just "gotta go"(as the braveheart of the music?). But even he doesn't do it all alone. After all, he's just a character in a movie, right?

    But none of this even begins to address the dirty business side of it. Now there is some work that needs to be done! Bring out some dynamite! Please!
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    Dale? what the heck are you talking about?
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    It was in reply to Deb

    Quote Originally Posted by dlsr
    But look at the lyrics again.

    Now I can't forget the morning when I woke alone in bed
    To a rose left on her pillow and a good-bye note that read
    You cannot grow a flower if you do not have the seed
    Now I've got everything I need

    If it was a pregnancy she was after, the last line would say "now SHE'S got everything SHE needs", but it doesn't. it says now HE'S got everything HE needs. I seem to remember garth referring to songs as seeds, but i can't find the quote so i could be mistaken. but what if that is what he means by seeds. she comes into his life, there's a whirlwind of passion, then leaves him with the memory that he can't get over. He'll always wonder where she is, what she's doing now. so if the songs are seeds, he does have everything he needs. He'll never run out of things to write about, and goes on writing songs about her...like What's she doing now, That summer, The Red Strokes, etc. etc. etc.
    Maybe you should read both again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandis
    They lyrics say "I've got everything I need", and he was quoting from the note "she" left him on the pillow, as you stated in your post. :shrug:
    There are no quotation marks to show the beginning and ending of the note. The first line begins with him talking, so the last line could also be him talking. You can assume the last line is still part of the note, but you can also assume that it isn't. Without quotation marks, there is no way of knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandis
    They lyrics say "I've got everything I need", and he was quoting from the note "she" left him on the pillow, as you stated in your post. :shrug:
    I know the line says "I've got everything I need", I was referring to "I" as in garth as in the songwriter doing the talking.

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    Maybe the 'man' had simply given Alison Miranda some useful gardening tips - I mean, three days is a long time and they must have talked a little!
    Incidentally, I wonder if he ever managed to get to see his friends in Oklahoma that week - it's a bit rude if he never turned up as they probably were expecting him!
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    now guys (and girls?) it's obvious that it's her talking. I mean why would he say:

    Now I can't forget the morning when I woke alone in bed - this means that she left him

    Also it doesn't make it absolutely clear whether she left him after 3 days. It only states that they "Came up for air" which probably meant they moved on - maybe they even got to their destination. It could have been several months before she left him for good.

    I wish Garth would read these threads and clear it up for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by plutopants
    Maybe the 'man' had simply given Alison Miranda some useful gardening tips - I mean, three days is a long time and they must have talked a little!
    Incidentally, I wonder if he ever managed to get to see his friends in Oklahoma that week - it's a bit rude if he never turned up as they probably were expecting him!
    George
    LMAO

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    *the Seed

    An emperor in the Far East was growing old and knew it was time to
    choose his successor. Instead of choosing one of his assistants or his
    children, he decided to do something different. He called young people
    in the kingdom together one day.

    He said, "It is time for me to step down and choose the next emperor. I
    have decided to choose one of you." *The children were shocked, but the
    emperor continued. "I am going to give each one of you a seed today -
    one very special seed. I want you to plant the seed, water it, and come
    back here one year from today with what you have grown from this one
    seed. I will then judge the plants that you bring, and the one I choose
    will be the next emperor."

    One boy, named Ling, was there that day and he, like the others,
    received a seed. He went home an d excitedly, told his mother the story.
    She helped him get a pot and planting soil, and he planted the seed and
    watered it, carefully. Everyday, he would water it and watch to see if
    it had grown.

    After about three weeks, some of the other youths began to talk about
    their seeds and the plants that were beginning to grow. Ling kept
    checking his seed, but nothing ever grew. Three weeks, four weeks, five
    weeks went by. Still nothing. By now, others were talking about their
    plants, but Ling didn't have a plant and he felt like a failure.

    Six months went by--still nothing in Ling's pot. He just knew he had
    killed his seed. Everyone else had trees and tall plants, but he had
    nothing. Ling didn't say anything to his friends, however. He just kept
    waiting for his seed to grow.

    A year finally went by and all the youths of the kingdom brought their
    plants to the emperor for inspection. Ling told his mother that he
    wasn't going to take an empty pot. But his mother asked him to be honest
    about what happened.

    Ling felt sick at his stomach, but he knew his mother was right. He took
    his empty pot to the palace. When Ling arrived, he was amazed at the
    variety of plants grown by the other youths. They were beautiful--in all
    shapes and sizes. Ling put his empty pot on the floor and many of the
    other children laughed at him. A few felt sorry for him and just said,
    "Hey, nice try."

    When the emperor arrived, he surveyed the room and greeted the young
    people. Ling just tried to hide in the back. "My, what great plants,
    trees, and flowers you have grown," said the emperor. "Today one of you
    will be appointed the next emperor!"

    All of a sudden, the emperor spotted Ling at the back of the room with
    his empty pot. He ordered his guards to bring him to the front. Ling was
    terrified. He thought, "The emperor knows I'm a failure! Maybe he will
    have me killed!"

    When Ling got to the front, the Emperor asked his name. "My name is
    Ling, " he replied. All the kids were laughing and making fun of him.
    The emperor asked everyone to quiet down. He looked at Ling, and then
    announced to the crowd, "Behold your new emperor. His name is Ling!"
    Ling couldn't believe it. Ling couldn't even grow his seed. How could he
    be the new emperor?

    Then the emperor said, "One year ago today, I gave everyone here a seed.
    I told you to take the seed, plant it, water it, and bring it back to me
    today. But I gave you all boiled seeds that would not grow. All of you,
    except Ling, have brought me trees and plants and flowers.

    When you found that the seed would not grow, you substituted another
    seed for the one I gave you. Ling was the only one with the courage and
    honesty to bring me a pot with my seed in it. Therefore, he is the one
    who will be the new emperor!"

    If you plant honesty, you will reap trust.

    If you plant goodness, you will reap friends.

    If you plant humility, you will reap greatness.

    If you plant perseverance, you will reap victory.

    If you plant consideration, you will reap harmony.

    If you plant hard work, you will reap success.

    If you plant forgiveness, you will reap reconciliation.

    If you plant faith, you will reap miracles.

    So be careful what you plant, now; it will determine what you will reap
    tomorrow. The seeds you now scatter will make life worse or better for
    you or for the ones who will come after you. Someday you will enjoy the
    fruits or you will pay for the choices you make.*

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    This tune

    This tune is getting a lot of talk lately. HOpefully he releases it to radio.

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    can't stop laughing this thread is hilarious if u read it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiegarthfan
    can't stop laughing this thread is hilarious if u read it all
    love sammi
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    Sammi, i'm beginning to think the same thing! I gave up on some of it after a while!
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    the great thing about music

    perhaps it means whatever each person interprets it as?

    there are no rules to what words mean...



    good songs dont convey strict messages... but more open your mind to what can be...



    Allison Miranda is probably one of the few highlights on the whole disc. i was dissapointed, but am glad this song is getting some credit
    "You're not rich until you have something that money can't buy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeb49
    perhaps it means whatever each person interprets it as?

    there are no rules to what words mean...



    good songs dont convey strict messages... but more open your mind to what can be...



    Allison Miranda is probably one of the few highlights on the whole disc. i was dissapointed, but am glad this song is getting some credit
    I agree with the first you say. I think the meaning of a song is up to each person who listen to it to.

    But I do NOT agree with the last thing, I love this cd!!! But then again, it is up to the listener...

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