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Emerald Isle
02-26-2019, 08:01 PM
Well, even though I'm passing on the current (amazing) offer, I figured it was worth it to start a new thread to discuss the upcoming vinyl releases.

Please post if you preordered, what number you chose and why, and what if any problems you ran into.

(Also, I guess this would be as good of a place as any for any international folks to enlist the help of those in the U.S. to get these).

patszzz0915
02-26-2019, 08:04 PM
Been in since 6:15 and now I can't get in. The sight just spins

ManAgnstMachine
02-26-2019, 08:11 PM
Been on here for 4 hours.... now it won't connect.

patszzz0915
02-26-2019, 08:14 PM
You would think there would be a better way

Emerald Isle
02-26-2019, 08:19 PM
The cynic in me wonders if Garth, how shall I say it, negotiates for these sites to crash when this stuff launches because it makes for a good marketing headline, makes the stuff appear to be in high demand and urgent, causes buyers act more impulsively, etc.

For example,. Ticketmaster handles thousands of on-sales per year for concerts, sporting events, etc, but when Garth Brooks shows go on sale suddenly there's just too much traffic and the site crashes... hmmm....

copinark
02-26-2019, 08:22 PM
I could be wrong but isnít talk shop live Bryan aka hashtagís company? Could be heís just helping him out but the system canít handle the demand. 🤷*♂️

Emerald Isle
02-26-2019, 08:30 PM
I could be wrong but isn’t talk shop live Bryan aka hashtag’s company? Could be he’s just helping him out but the system can’t handle the demand. 🤷*♂️

Yes it is, but that's my point. Hashtag couldn't have anticipated that there would be high demand and, you know, got more servers lined up?!? Unless they wanted it to crash his site so that, as you'll notice on twitter, people will report that Garth on Vinyl was in such high demand that it broke the internet. Like I said, it makes a great headline and could cause someone who is on the fence act more impulsively when the site comes back up. I suppose that is a pretty cynical view. It could also be just as plausible that Hashtag grossly underestimated the demand.

Emerald Isle
02-26-2019, 08:35 PM
Garth's latest video on Facebook says they are overwhelmed by the response and that they didn't expect so many people to try and log on to do this, so the reservation pre-order may get pushed off, but that they'll keep us posted.

And here is the statement that just went out on Garth's Facebook page:

"Here is what we know about #GARTHonVINYL - absolutely NO numbers were given out. The site was overwhelmed before it ever came up. The good news is, the on sale never started. So here’s what I plan, rehearsals for the Stadium tour start Thursday, see behind the curtain and we will do this then! love, g"

Marketing genius level ninja stuff right there!! Build hype through headlines for not only the vinyl, but for the tour as well! ;)

gbkubfan
02-26-2019, 08:40 PM
Finding a way to get all six covers of Triple Live will be interesting. What are the chances of getting all six covers in the 3 versions. I did see a couple more vinyl in his video talking about the large turnout.

AronP24
02-26-2019, 08:43 PM
CLASSIC post-retirement Garth. LMAO.
He’s like a blunder in blue jeans these days.
Over-hype, under-deliver and when the hype is real it all goes to s***.
“Hey soooooo sorry that didn’t work... but I’ve got 5 stadium shows planned this year you should check out. Ty will be back for some and you’ll need a helmet.. again.”
Dude is lost and it makes me sad.

ETA: I’m in on this whenever it gets fixed. Excited to finally have him on vinyl.. but it’s been complete let down for quite a few years now.

Skywise
02-26-2019, 08:55 PM
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CLASSIC post-retirement Garth. LMAO.
He’s like a blunder in blue jeans these days.
Over-hype, under-deliver and when the hype is real it all goes to s***.
“Hey soooooo sorry that didn’t work... but I’ve got 5 stadium shows planned this year you should check out. Ty will be back for some and you’ll need a helmet.. again.”
Dude is lost and it makes me sad.

ETA: I’m in on this whenever it gets fixed. Excited to finally have him on vinyl.. but it’s been complete let down for quite a few years now.

well said, Aron- I can't say i'm in o the vinyl as honestly I don't have any way to play it w/o shelling out inordinate amounts of $ for the vinyl.. am interested in the 'bonus songs' though... whatever they may be

AronP24
02-26-2019, 09:03 PM
I’m reposting my previous post with current edits bc somehow we can’t edit after 10 minutes.. weirdest forum rule ever but you do you, so forgive me for the repost.. but added some thoughts, and then I’m done. Promise.
Hope you are all healthy and well and glad we are still on here together after several decades.

__________


He’s like a blunder in blue jeans these days.
Over-hype, under-deliver and when the hype is real it all goes to s***.
“Hey soooooo sorry that didn’t work... but I’ve got 5 stadium shows planned this year you should check out. Ty will be back for some and you’ll need a helmet.. again.”
Dude is lost and it makes me sad.

ETA: I’m in on this whenever it gets fixed. Excited to finally have him on vinyl.. but it’s been complete let down for quite a few years now. MATM had some amazing cuts that would’ve been HUGE on radio.. but he releases none of them as singles. Gunslinger was painful to even make it through, nevermind a re-listen on ANY of the tracks. The ‘live’ anthology is literally everything we’ve seen and heard for 3 decades through dvd’s and the original live cd’s with 107 different covers plus a new live project that rehashes the aforementioned 1998 107 different cover project with a couple new cuts sprinkled in but ALSO still combined with yet again aforementioned 107 different covered Double Live. “I know.. we’ll update it and call it.. TRIPLE live!”
Sorry to vent. I will ALWAYS appreciate GB. I wanted to be him as a kid. Hell, I still do. But it sucks being disappointed time and time again.

gbkubfan
02-26-2019, 09:05 PM
So the vinyl will be released soon if I understood him. He will have it a stadium shows for sale. That means un-numbered may be in retail locations soon also. I am assuming that un-numbered copies are ready since he sent out copies to give radio stations. Plus lower numbered versions must be ready since he had a numbered version. So does that mean we could get numbered version sooner than November?

Brett Dale
02-26-2019, 10:03 PM
So Am I right, in thinking that NO orders at all went through today, not just the "special number" ones but all editions.

The site just crashed and no one got one.

But you can try again on Thursday.

Also has a track listing been released, so people can know what the bonus songs are?

rmila00
02-26-2019, 10:54 PM
I have been a huge Garth fan since 1993. I was and still am a Garth Brooks wantabe. But I have to agree with Emerald Isle and AronP24 100% and it greatly saddens me :(

Charles
02-26-2019, 10:58 PM
So Am I right, in thinking that NO orders at all went through today, not just the "special number" ones but all editions.

The site just crashed and no one got one.

But you can try again on Thursday.

Also has a track listing been released, so people can know what the bonus songs are?

No one got on , talk shop crashed....and there's no track listing yet !

Emerald Isle
02-26-2019, 11:34 PM
No one got on , talk shop crashed....and there's no track listing yet !

If Garth stays true to the pattern he’s followed since the comeback, we won’t have a tracklist until a week to 10 days before release.

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 02:02 AM
So hes trying again on Thursday thru talk shop live,

Uhm what say it happens again, and goes down???

Are they're saying hes using the same system (im not a computer guy)

How could a system not cope with say 10-15K worth of orders????

I mean How many people were trying to place orders?????

STLGarth
02-27-2019, 09:19 AM
Yes it is, but that's my point. Hashtag couldn't have anticipated that there would be high demand and, you know, got more servers lined up?!? Unless they wanted it to crash his site so that, as you'll notice on twitter, people will report that Garth on Vinyl was in such high demand that it broke the internet. Like I said, it makes a great headline and could cause someone who is on the fence act more impulsively when the site comes back up. I suppose that is a pretty cynical view. It could also be just as plausible that Hashtag grossly underestimated the demand.

It's funny that you say that because I had the exact same thoughts last night. Along with building up more hype, I think that it kind of feeds his ego a bit seeing this. I love Garth as much and usually more than the next guy, but the way things these days are done are so so frustrating.

BTW, I'm glad you said it first because typically not agreeing with Garth isn't a popular thing to do ;) However, this group is usually more realistic then Facebook folks.

Skywise
02-27-2019, 09:35 AM
Ya know- the more I think about this, the crashing, the problem, all of it. I'm glad there are others who see the potential of the same thing being true that I do.

Is it conspiracy theory thinking? maybe- but Garth's either a complete dunce when it comes to technology and hiring people to handle things/anticipation of the response that will be generated by him,


OR

Garth, or someone in his 'camp', sets these things up to happen purposely. This is not the first time that 'things have crashed' or 'the response has been overwhelming' etc in the last 5 years.

Garth's ticket sales for stadium tour....
Garth's Notre Dame appearance....
Shows in Garth's last tour....


Those are just three things I can think of where this exact, or similar 'events' have happened around ordering, buying etc..

Garth has an advertising degree. With advertising comes promotion... We all know that Garth is good at promotion

promotion/advertising - build an anticipation/desire in your product.... Garth is doing/has done that

Really, it can come down to Supply/Demand.. Manipulate the supply side somehow, and increase the demand....


I'd honestly hope that it's more simple than that, that Garth is just truly clueless and not as smart as we think, and that has caused him to use people who can't handle things for him sometimes.....

But knowing Garth's penchant for control, sales, #'s..... I can't say that It's a forgone conclusion that positive is reality in this situation.... the manipulation angle seems far more likely to be a reality..

Charles
02-27-2019, 09:56 AM
This is really funny stuff to me , itís pretty simple , the servers werenít strong enough.

Some of you think vinyl is niche, but heck isnít any medium for music a niche ? Streaming is ..... cds are .... heck the radio is .

The fact of the matter is this is a popular release and this is the only place to preorder it right now. Theyíll reinforce the servers and it will work.

Garthís a popular artist , Iím not ever surprised when the servers canít support the demand whether it be on ticketmaster or anything .

CER956
02-27-2019, 03:06 PM
The site crashing due to a few thousand orders is as plausible to me as scrapping a new record due to dropping your iPhone in water.

With technology as advanced as it is these days.....I call Bull.

rhd13
02-27-2019, 03:07 PM
This is really funny stuff to me , itís pretty simple , the servers werenít strong enough.

Some of you think vinyl is niche, but heck isnít any medium for music a niche ? Streaming is ..... cds are .... heck the radio is .

The fact of the matter is this is a popular release and this is the only place to preorder it right now. Theyíll reinforce the servers and it will work.

Garthís a popular artist , Iím not ever surprised when the servers canít support the demand whether it be on ticketmaster or anything .

Not trying to be difficult, but I just read an article saying there was something like 800 billion streams last year and the 2 major streaming services have almost 100 million subscribers. Iím not sure how that qualifies as ďnicheĒ. On the contrary, there were like 16 million vinyl albums sold last year TOTAL. Thatís a very small piece of the music consumption pie and I think most would call that a niche market. The music industry itself calls it that.

Charles
02-27-2019, 03:41 PM
This is not HSN guys ... itís talkshop , itís extremely possible that the site crashed !!

I remember Wynnís site crashed when Garth started his residency there . I seriously doubt someone said ď hey Steve Wynn , can we crash the system to create hype .Ē

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 05:02 PM
I follow Bryan Moore on Twitter, he seems a real genuine nice guy, his talk shop live thing, seems to be a site that wouldnt have massive large volumes.

I think Garth is the type of person who in the early 80's wouldve bought a Beta video player instead of VHS.

I think the choices he makes are done by loyalty, rather than a business decision.

I can see why the Wynn site would crash when people were trying to buy tickets, its a Hotel/resort in Vegas, not ticket master.

I though think its strange that a site would crash like yesterday. I think the volume of people trying to order his Vinyl wouldnt had been
in the hundreds of thousands, but more like 10-15K tops???? I probbaly think they got around 5K of orders and thats it.

Again with all due respect to Bryan, perhaps it's more of a case of Garth not being with the top people in their field.

In say this, if it ever gets proven that these crashes are purposely done, Garth needs to be called up on it.

Emerald Isle
02-27-2019, 05:47 PM
I'm sorry to be soo cynical. I agree it is very plausible that Bryan's site just couldn't handle the traffic. Wynn's too, maybe.

But Ticketmaster?!? How many times did Garth crash that thing? And that's a site that, like I said, handles thousands of on-sale events a year for concerts, sporting events, etc. Like when a pro sports team's tickets first go on sale for the season, they are selling tickets for stadiums, not arenas, and they are selling dozens of games/events at a time. Ticketmaster handles that just fine. No problems.

But Garth puts 2-3 shows on sale at once in an arena and suddenly Ticketmaster can't handle the traffic, not just once, but multiple times.

I know it's suspicious, paranoid, and black helicopter-ish, but this whole Garth Breaks the internet thing just keep happening, and Garth is always quick to jump on it and say "sorry, I just didn't expect this many of you to show up!" All I know is that, intentional or not, it's a fantastic marketing tool and makes a great story. "Demand for [Wynn tickets, concert tickets, or vinyl] is just too big that Garth broke the internet!"

But riddle me this, if demand for Garth's stuff is so insane that it keeps breaking the internet, then why were there no similar stories about people lining up at Target to get the Ultimate Collection a few years ago? Where were the stories of the stampede of folks breaking down the doors to get Garth's latest release. In other words, this stuff only happens when Garth's stuff goes on sale on the internet. No where else.

Again, so for being so suspicious!

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 06:03 PM
I guess one thing to say in this discussion, Garth is very very smart, I would say, he would know or have some idea what the demand is, and around how many Units/tickets he
would sell, when an album or concert tickets go on sale, he must have a team of people who do this for him.

It just seems strange, that it will go down.

Or perhaps its just a legitimate server down thing.

Im also thinking now is, they may not release the number of sales to Soundscan but will do for the RIAA.

I didnt think about it being planned until it was mentioned.

Im really 50/50 on it.

gbkubfan
02-27-2019, 06:17 PM
I think this is so funny. Who cares if he builds hype for his music. Again, he is in the business of SELLING music. It is a business. In the big picture he is competing against a world full of other artists for your hard earned cash. Like the choice I had to make with Garth's first album. Garth or Clint Black. I chose Garth. Well with 311 million people out there in the USA, he has to work it hard.
Everyday you see stories in the news about businesses closing like KMart, Toys R Us etc. People forget or just don't think of supporting a business or find an easier way to shop. Then when the place goes out of business they are sad and mad. Garth is just trying to stay viable as well as keep his workers paid and in a job. I applaud him for that. And if it isn't your thing, you have the right to not participate. But why complain?
I am so glad he is still releasing music, some new, some old and some cover/live stuff. We are so lucky.
I look at it this way. OREOs does all kinds of things to sell its cookie. Sure we have regular OREOs and Double Stuff but they have added all kinds of different flavors to keep on selling cookies.
Emerald unfair analogy. Ultimate Collection was available at 50 zillion Target stores, Legacy was available at one web site. Apples and oranges.

Emerald Isle
02-27-2019, 07:25 PM
Fair enough, gbkubfan

If this is his method to "SELL" the music he's already released multiple times over, then fine. It just feels rather manipulative to me if he's doing these web-crashes on purpose to generate hype and demand. But you know what made No Fences (and everything else before and after) sell so well? Great music and a great live show!! And you know what, I think THAT formula would still work better than resorting to gimmicks and parlor tricks. But whatever! Maybe I'm the old curmudgeon since these articles seem to show that the gimmick (if indeed that's what it is) is working quite well:

https://popculture.com/country-music/2019/02/27/garth-brooks-breaks-internet-latest-legacy-collection/

https://themusicuniverse.com/overwhelming-demand-crashes-garth-brooks-vinyl-on-sale/

http://kwbe.com/abc_music-co/demand-for-garth-brooks-legacy-vinyl-set-crashes-planned-preorder-now-rescheduled-for-thursday-abcid36161715/


Yeah, I'm sure Garth is quite disappointed and brokenhearted that things didn't go as planned yesterday and now has to deal with all this free press boosting his product prior to the "new" launch date tomorrow! ;)

gbwnab
02-27-2019, 07:45 PM
Somewhere the lady that tried to argue with me telling me that its completely random that females primarily occupy the front row(s) at concerts is just spinning over all of this tomfoolery about Garth having more input than we would like to imagine...

PS. There might have been a day where I would drop $100 on a garth project without knowing what I was getting, but that day has passed. Don't get me wrong, its not about disposable income, its about being tired of having a number of the exact same (albeit retitled, renumbered, repackaged) material. I have Garth Brooks, Fences, Ropin' and Pieces on Vinyl- I'd need to see Fresh Horses before I would even consider it. Sure, I'm just one person, and my decision not to purchase won't amount to a hill of beans- but I'm still one person...

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 09:09 PM
I should never be on a jury, Im too easily swayed.

I read one post, and I think , it was all a plan for the server to go down.

I read another, and I think, of course it wasnt, servers go down all the time.

Judging by the comments that Bryan Moore (Who I think is a good guy) gets on twitter, talk show live isnt huge.

So it might not take a massive volume to bring the server down.

On the other hand, Garth is smart, and you would think they would've worked out how many people will be trying to buy this thing.

When the people who do the boxoffice, try to predict what a movie is going to make, they're normally quite spot on.

The movie "IT" being an exception, it far far far exceeded what it was suppose to take in.

Now with music, they must of had a number they were expecting, Im thinking around 5K.

Im guessing at the top of the range, they may of been 10-15K.

Things wouldve been set up for this.

So How many people were trying to get into talk shop live????

The website seems to indicate they have 10K followers??

How many of those 10K were trying to buy Vinyl?

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 10:14 PM
Garth just tweeted out it was the Bots that crashed the site.


Garth Brooks
‏Verified account @garthbrooks
54m54 minutes ago

#GARTHonVINYL update 1: You all were great yesterday, and I appreciate that beyond words. We want to do something special for you. The bots crashed the site, but we do know the registration list is purely humans:)

Brett Dale
02-27-2019, 10:15 PM
Latest tweet from Garth...


Garth Brooks
‏Verified account @garthbrooks
55m55 minutes ago

#GARTHonVINYL update 2: I would like to strongly urge you to register now https://garthbrooks.com/vinyl cause I am thinking we might give you a special heads up �� thank you again and thank you in advance. Tomorrow is going to be AWESOME! love, g

gbkubfan
02-28-2019, 12:19 AM
I am sorta glad the thing crashed. After thinking it over I am probably only going to buy 1 numbered collection. I think it is crazy to try and get six covers of the vinyl triple live.
I gave away my cassette collection and am just into the cds. I even gave away my 45's. I am just curious how they will do the cds. I don't think they will have a cover and will be inserted much like the Anthology. I could be wrong. When he releases Triple Live in the fall will the cds have the original covers or new ones? So I will just get 1 numbered copy and buy any others at retail. I keep seeing mentions that they will be released soon but by November. I think in the next couple weeks to coincide with the stadium tour. May be easier to buy different versions at retail.

Skywise
02-28-2019, 09:39 AM
Not trying to be difficult, but I just read an article saying there was something like 800 billion streams last year and the 2 major streaming services have almost 100 million subscribers. I’m not sure how that qualifies as “niche”. On the contrary, there were like 16 million vinyl albums sold last year TOTAL. That’s a very small piece of the music consumption pie and I think most would call that a niche market. The music industry itself calls it that.

As i understand it, the LARGEST selling album (vinyl) last year sold a whopping 84000 copies... well there were 2 albums tied at the top- Michael Jackson's Thriller and Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack...

The largest selling CD of 2018 (acc to https://www.statista.com/) was The Greatest Showman, with sales of over 1.2 MILLION.. that's not including streaming I believe, that's physical sales...

one's a niche (vinyl).. one's not (CDs) though CD sales are plummeting .. physical media as a whole is 'dying' slowly

Skywise
02-28-2019, 09:43 AM
This is really funny stuff to me , it’s pretty simple , the servers weren’t strong enough.

Some of you think vinyl is niche, but heck isn’t any medium for music a niche ? Streaming is ..... cds are .... heck the radio is .

I had statistics when I was trying to/going to post about this yesterday- didn't happen. The thing is, no I don't think any medium is a niche.

a definition of niche is "pertaining to or intended for a market niche; having specific appeal:".. Cds, radio, streaming- they dont' just really have 'specific' appeal. they appeal to the whole, the general music buying population.

Vinyl is far more a niche market than other formats.. it WAS a generally popular format- about 35 - 40 years ago...


The fact of the matter is this is a popular release and this is the only place to preorder it right now. They’ll reinforce the servers and it will work.

Garth’s a popular artist , I’m not ever surprised when the servers can’t support the demand whether it be on ticketmaster or anything .

of course the servers will be 'reinforced'.. it will 'work' and 'work brilliantly' today most likely..

the point of that is though... (or the suspicion that is still there) is/was the disruption of the servers genuinely due to overwhelming demand, or due to an incompetent server, OR was it due to a purposed disruption designed to boost sales/ bring hype/news to the project



The site crashing due to a few thousand orders is as plausible to me as scrapping a new record due to dropping your iPhone in water.

With technology as advanced as it is these days.....I call Bull.

I'd forgotten about that 'event'.. I still call 'shenanigans' on that too...


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overall, there's too much to question to believe that it's honestly the type of 'oops' situation garth has made it out to be.. "oh the bots crashed the servers"..


that may work for tickets, but I don't nec. see the truthfulness in that statement concerning Garth and physical sales of a vinyl record......

copinark
02-28-2019, 08:18 PM
Had mine reserved then got kicked out after waiting fifteen minutes. This is like trying to run NASA on a Geocities site. Just put it on a site like YouTube that can handle the traffic.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 08:20 PM
Well it seems partial success tonight, judging by twitter, around 60% of people had the system crash on them but around 40% seem to have gotten their order!!! :-)

This of course is just twitter and just going by about ten people.

But I could view the video at talkshoplive, so it seems things went good,a lthough judging by the chat below the
video at talkshoplive a lot of people werent able to buy it, they got stalled at checkout.

copinark
02-28-2019, 08:25 PM
Luckily got mine after getting booted at check out a couple of times.

rhd13
02-28-2019, 08:36 PM
Got my number and then it wouldnít process at checkout. Never been able to get back in. Pretty ridiculous.

pudge104
02-28-2019, 08:41 PM
Got my number and then it wouldn’t process at checkout. Never been able to get back in. Pretty ridiculous.

Same here. Now it’s completely crashed.

LostSessions
02-28-2019, 08:51 PM
I tried I know 8 times. All of my info was put in, then there wasn't a complete my order button, then there was, then it crashed. I am not happy that I did not get my special number because of stupid talkshop live. I even tried other numbers because I was desperate to buy. Then I had two in my shopping cart and I pressed complete order button and nothing. It timed out on me. What am I to think about this? This was a catastrophe.

randa16
02-28-2019, 08:52 PM
I am out on this vinyl gimmick. I don't own a record player nor do I want a record player and the few extra songs he puts on the albums will be on youtube soon enough and I will rip it for free, or wait for Walmart to have it reduced from $50 to $15 by Christmas. What is next let me guess every album on 8 track and the year after on cassette?

Where is the track listings? why can we not see what we are buying?

He has once again screwed over his fans outside of the USA

The number thing is absolutely stupid, I can do this with a marker. The album cover makes no sense at all, what does an astronaut have to do with anything?

Fakes a crash to drum up free publicity and attention

Never been so disappointed in Garth

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 09:10 PM
seems the site is now down.

LostSessions
02-28-2019, 09:11 PM
I wonder if/how Garth's team is going to fix this.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 09:21 PM
Its a strange one, there are people on twitter saying they got it, but the amount of people saying they got thru all
the stages, then at checkout it just crashed is staggering.

Lot of angry out there directed at talkshoplive, but if they're leaving it up for 24 hours, then maybe people
who want it can try in the wee small hours, and they might get it.

fences2312
02-28-2019, 09:26 PM
Didnít get one. Got close twice. Had number 256 and it crashed. So pissed. Stupid website, stupid system. What the hell did he sign with Amazon for? Now the site is gone?... I took off work two days early for this I LOST MONEY ON THIS!
DONE!!!!

nyyankfanken
02-28-2019, 09:37 PM
After many unsuccessful attempts, I finally got both numbers I wanted. My Birthday 020885 and my 1st Garth Show 012508! Only took an hour and a half! ��

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 09:39 PM
gone to facebook, and it seems just like twitter people had trouble ordering. Fingers crossed for those that are still trying.

CharlieBarton
02-28-2019, 09:40 PM
Garth sure is ticking off a whole bunch of people.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 09:42 PM
After many unsuccessful attempts, I finally got both numbers I wanted. My Birthday 020885 and my 1st Garth Show 012508! Only took an hour and a half! ��

Well done for getting it!!

CharlieBarton
02-28-2019, 09:45 PM
I really just want Garth to stick to normal selling methods. This is just stupid. Smh

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 09:47 PM
Just surprised Bryan Moore or someone from his team hasnt tweeted out anything to give an update.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:15 PM
Someone who didnt receive one, are now getting the error message "Quantity Limit reached"

Did they sell out??? Will they ever give out how much they sold? People are still trying to order, judging by whats being written on social media.

I guess it was just an error message???

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:16 PM
Garth Brooks has just tweeted out.


Garth Brooks
‏Verified account @garthbrooks
14m14 minutes ago

Garth Brooks Retweeted Talk Shop Live

#GARTHonVINYL update: TalkShopLive is doing their best to speed up the order processing time! Thank you for being patient, they have assured us they will get your orders processed https://talkshop.live/stream/1780 - Team Garth

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:16 PM
Talkshop live has just tweeted out....


Talk Shop Live
‏ @TalkShopLive

Dear fans of Garth Brooks. We apologize that some orders are taking longer to process - they are going through! Please keep trying and we will get your vinyls ordered.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:18 PM
Latest tweet from garth.


Garth Brooks
‏Verified account @garthbrooks
10m10 minutes ago

They are going through, thank you for being so patient. TSL is actively looking at how to speed up the process even with the demand - Team Garth

CharlieBarton
02-28-2019, 10:20 PM
I wanted the vinyl about as much as anyone, but I'm not going to deal with this. Garth had really frustrated me a lot over the last few years.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:25 PM
The site is back up and running at least.

Brett Dale
02-28-2019, 10:29 PM
Awesome it appears, people's orders are finally going through!!!!!

Twitter people are now tweeting their orders are being processed!!

etsuwes
02-28-2019, 10:53 PM
Took me exactly three hours, and literally 17 attempts at purchasing that number but the system kept spinning and I'd get timed out, but I finally got my birthdate.

Ugh. I tried mobile. I tried safari. I tried Chrome. Finally got my number.

Huge clusterf--k. I understand fans wanting to buy 4 and 5 at a time, and I understand Garth giving that option. But it should have been one item per purchase, then if someone got one and wanted to get another, do another purchase.

If I didn't want these other vinyl editions to go with the two original presses I have, I would've said F it. Nevertheless... lol

randa16
02-28-2019, 10:59 PM
I am so confused on this

do you get all three boxes for $100 or just one?

Also why is the original garth brooks album not included?

Charles
02-28-2019, 11:17 PM
yes!!! you get the analog box, the digital remastered box, and the limited edition which includes the 180gram vinyl and the digital cds!

It's a heck of a deal...and the number is pretty dang cool.

rhd13
02-28-2019, 11:49 PM
Congrats to those that scored. For me personally this is the single most frustrating thing Iíve ever dealt with concerning Garth. Tried almost 4 hours. Most ridiculous thing Iíve ever seen. The only way I purchase this set is if there are actual real bonus tracks on the CDs. Will wait to find out when we are actually told the track list of what we are buying (you know, like most acts do). Thanks to this fiasco he lost my purchase. If the bonus tracks are real bonus tracks will buy in store after the inevitable deep discount.

Skywise
02-28-2019, 11:52 PM
Yeah, 100$ for a number..... and 3 copies of same albums... and the cds.. . I'm more with Ryan on this one.. will buy in store if bonus tracks warrant it.. but this sounds (from what I've read) like it was a cluster#### of an event

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 12:06 AM
Yep worse than Ghosttunes apparently. Orders are being done, but people still waiting after four hours.

As someone on twitter said Garth has no idea about ecommerce. I cannot believe that Garth who is one of the most
successful artists ever in the USA, (he must be worth $300-500 Million) will totally get so much wrong.

Man against machine, Im sorry Garth the Machine has kicked ya butt a few times, sad thing is, its of his own
doing.

It shouldn't be that hard for people to get a Garth Brooks product in 2019.

Im pretty sure, next studio G, both Hashtag and Garth will say sorry, and all will be forgiven, thing is though, there will be
something like this that happens again.

Its a shame because this Legacy set he's done looks amazing.

Skywise
03-01-2019, 12:16 AM
Yep worse than Ghosttunes apparently. yikes....


As someone on twitter said Garth has no idea about ecommerce. I cannot believe that Garth who is one of the most
successful artists ever in the USA, (he must be worth $300-500 Million) will totally get so much wrong. I think his failures are largely due to either his stubbornness, or really, an inability to adapt.. Either that, or Garth is content with nostalgia and milking the faithful repeatedly (ala KISS... I've gone off on other parallels their careers have taken)


Man against machine, Im sorry Garth the Machine has kicked ya butt a few times, sad thing is, its of his own
doing. can't argue with that one.


It shouldn't be that hard for people to get a Garth Brooks product in 2019. SHOULDN'T be.....


Im pretty sure, next studio G, both Hashtag and Garth will say sorry, and all will be forgiven, thing is though, there will be
something like this that happens again.

Its a shame because this Legacy set he's done looks amazing.
Garth's a master at promotion and advertising.... (another trait he shares with KISS).. he will spin the situation....to his advantage

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 12:44 AM
Excellent points , skywise.

Skywise
03-01-2019, 12:45 AM
:). thx :)

rhd13
03-01-2019, 12:55 AM
Well I guess I lied. I went back to try a couple of times and got my birthday. Wasnít my first choice. Was actually going to do my first Garth show in Ď91. However, I think it might have worked out best. Still doesnít change how frustrating of a process it was.

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 01:07 AM
Well done on those that got it.

Heres the thing, The Jonas Brothers have just released a comeback album, top trends on twitter is of course all about them. Im guessing no matter what platform
their fanbase is buying their album from, there will be no delay and no issue.

Im guessing if Rhianna, Beyonce, Drake did a promotional Like Garth did, there would be no problems.

I hope this is a wake up call to Garth, I hope his people go to talkshop live people and go Ballistic it them behind the scenes.

No amount of saying "The amount of people, surprised us" can make this acceptable.

He's not a little artist, hes not someone selling unique little products in low volume, it's Garth, he should
be embarrassed by this.

Again its sad because it's looks worth buying, a class product.

Emerald Isle
03-01-2019, 01:09 AM
Yep, totally glad I decided to skip this offer. Like others, if the bonus tracks end up being worthwhile, I'll just buy in store. The number gimmick isn't worth all this. Happy for those who got what they wanted though!

Emerald Isle
03-01-2019, 01:21 AM
Garth's latest tweet from 10 mins ago:

"For those that experienced delay in purchasing #GARTHonVINYL, we were informed TSL apologizes and has upped their processing speed. Now you can order your Legacy Collection with ease here https://bit.ly/2NBoVYY . Thanks for being patient. - Team Garth"

gbkubfan
03-01-2019, 02:05 AM
I just tried it from my e-mail and was done in five minutes. Got my date also. From talking to friends they are all buying a copy. I am curious how many will sell and if they will release numbers. I wonder if people are really buying 2 or 3 copies. So from what I heard the cds are in a bonus pack and their is a poster?

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 03:06 AM
Hats off to Bryan, he's taken full responsibility on Twitter.

The Fever
03-01-2019, 06:51 AM
Got one last night when the speed picked up. Got my date as well. Disappointed that I wasn't allowed to pick it as ddmmyy but it was the American way of doing dates. I'd kill him if he allows another opportunity to pick dates and it goes into the 2 hundred thousands. Really wanted 200114 because 20/01/14 is the day I met him. But guess 012014 is also a pretty cool number as well.

AronP24
03-01-2019, 07:56 AM
uh, I accidetally ended up ordering 9:-&

So I will be offering them to you guys when the time comes for the same price I paid + shipping. Got some cool dates too like 001993 (year IP was released) 001995 (year FH was released) 001996 (year 2nd world tour started) 01998 (year it ended) 001000, and 007000

I NEED to NEVER get on the interwebs drunk again with a credit card[-X

rhd13
03-01-2019, 09:18 AM
uh, I accidetally ended up ordering 9:-&

So I will be offering them to you guys when the time comes for the same price I paid + shipping. Got some cool dates too like 001993 (year IP was released) 001995 (year FH was released) 001996 (year 2nd world tour started) 01998 (year it ended) 001000, and 007000

I NEED to NEVER get on the interwebs drunk again with a credit card[-X

Ok, this has me concerned since I got so close to checking out several times. Did you get a confirmation e-mail for all of them?

The Fever
03-01-2019, 09:27 AM
100 dollars was a steal for what you got last night. I wasn't going to but then I couldn't make up my mind between analogue or digital remastered. If he adds more songs in future to the same vinyls, like he does with CDs, I'm done with all this. He should keep it the way it is.

Skywise
03-01-2019, 09:50 AM
Hmm- I have time to cancel my purchase- it's still a niche, it's still that, but.......

It will be interesting to have in my collection (and heck, I did pay about $600 or so between hotel, plane, ticket for ND, etc... ) so I guess $100 (well 103)

Couldn't get the date of my marriage (5-17-97)... ehh... ok.. couldn't pick a kids birthdate as I can't be the guy who chooses one kid over another...

chose the next most important date, the day I gave my life to Christ and accepted His sacrifice and grace and was saved..

120289

what the heck- I can save up an extra $100 over the next few months

AronP24
03-01-2019, 10:01 AM
Ok, this has me concerned since I got so close to checking out several times. Did you get a confirmation e-mail for all of them?

Sure did. All 9 of them
/facepalm

fences2312
03-01-2019, 11:09 AM
Sure did. All 9 of them
/facepalm

Na, get a hold of customer service, the site was atrocious. They know how slow it was, you should be able to get a refund on the ones you donít want.

Skywise
03-01-2019, 11:30 AM
And yes, I do realize buying it is a bit hypocritical.. in a way- I: still feel the same way about the set, but the realization of not being charged until October kinda swayed me to buy a collectible...

rhd13
03-01-2019, 11:53 AM
And yes, I do realize buying it is a bit hypocritical.. in a way- I: still feel the same way about the set, but the realization of not being charged until October kinda swayed me to buy a collectible...

Is it hypocritical? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, I did the same thing. Ha!

I think we see this set the same. I bought it as basically a collector’s item and because I have purchased every Garth release I think. I will probably never play the vinyl, but it is cool to have. I don’t have a lot of hope the bonus tracks on the CDs will be anything we don’t already have. I’d like to be proven wrong.

In the end, the price was really good for what you get. Yes, the number is gimmicky, but I imagine my kids picking up the box some day, seeing that number, and thinking how cool it is that I have that number.

For me, I feel like I’m going in with eyes wide open. I know what it is and although there are things I don’t like about it (like randomly going out of order and not having GB and Ropin’ in the set) I still think that the value of getting all 3 boxes, 3 different Triple Live covers, maybe some cool bonus tracks and just being a Garth collector it makes it worth having.

Skywise
03-01-2019, 12:05 PM
Is it hypocritical? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, I did the same thing. Ha!

I think we see this set the same. I bought it as basically a collector’s item and because I have purchased every Garth release I think. I will probably never play the vinyl, but it is cool to have. I don’t have a lot of hope the bonus tracks on the CDs will be anything we don’t already have. I’d like to be proven wrong.

In the end, the price was really good for what you get. Yes, the number is gimmicky, but I imagine my kids picking up the box some day, seeing that number, and thinking how cool it is that I have that number.

For me, I feel like I’m going in with eyes wide open. I know what it is and although there are things I don’t like about it (like randomly going out of order and not having GB and Ropin’ in the set) I still think that the value of getting all 3 boxes, 3 different Triple Live covers, maybe some cool bonus tracks and just being a Garth collector it makes it worth having.

In the end, Ryan... I agree completely.. I'll admit, I was getting drawn in while watching the video on the talkshow.live site- Garth's def. good at hype...

lol I def. won' be playing the vinyl- not anytime soon, as I'm not putting out the type of money a vinyl system would cost.. but as a collector- it'll be nice to have. besides- if you play it- theres still the chance of it scratching- and thus being damaged- New in Box will end up being more valuable IMO

(dang though- may have to open it depending on how CD's are packaged)

STLGarth
03-01-2019, 01:09 PM
I think that Garth can only blame 'the bots' so much. In my opinion, I don't believe that 'the bots' are going to order a bunch of random numbers and wait for 8 months to get them in hopes that someone just happens to want the numbers that were picked. Just sounds made up to me.

On the bright side, 8 sleeps until the Stadium Tour starts!

Skywise
03-01-2019, 01:33 PM
this wouldn't surprise me if it was made up...

[quote]On the bright side, 8 sleeps until the Stadium Tour starts!
lol- haven't heard 'sleeps' used by anyone else before like this :)

the new tour will bring new stories def.. the stage looks kinda cool from what the little video on talkshow was showing

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 05:07 PM
Garth's released a video today, explaining what went wrong with the system. Her polarized, then got technical, he said it was something to do with people ordering the
lowest number possible and the system not handling it. He also said something that it was three times the amount that they thought they would sell (did i get that right)

So they have open up the second window, but it wont include shipping, so it will be $150.

Quite a gracious video from Garth, he did explain what happened.

At the end I think he was referencing (Talkshowlive) and he said he will stick with them for the rest
of his life, no matter how many times they fail, because they're sweet people. he also said there
will be a press thing to explain the numbers (how many sold?????) soon.

https://www.facebook.com/GarthBrooks/videos/1160145244157519/

pparish
03-01-2019, 06:14 PM
What Garth said about the numbers causing the issue does make sense. I've seen similar things happen before at work. The website was probably querying the database looking for the lowest number. That query probably interfered with another person who was also querying the database for the lowest number. The two queries probably locked each other causing the slow down.

Regardless of what caused the issue, they should have fully tested this functionality out before releasing it to the public. They could have set up servers and simulated thousands of people trying to make a purchase at the same time.

Brett Dale
03-01-2019, 10:09 PM
I know people dont get it till November, but has anything come out, on what are the extra songs that are in triple live (The ones that weren't on the fanmix) Also
what are the bonus songs on No Fences, In Pieces, The Chase and Fresh Horses???

Emerald Isle
03-01-2019, 10:47 PM
I know people dont get it till November, but has anything come out, on what are the extra songs that are in triple live (The ones that weren't on the fanmix) Also
what are the bonus songs on No Fences, In Pieces, The Chase and Fresh Horses???

I am betting that info won’t be released until literally just before release.

Brett Dale
03-04-2019, 05:57 PM
The Numbers are out.

from twitter nashcountydaily

Sold 20,000 Vinyl Boxed Sets on Thursday. Each Set Has 7 Records Available in 3 Packages (Analog, Remix-Remaster & Limited). 20,000 X 7 X 3 = 420,000 Vinyl Records Sold. Garth Wins at Life Again

gbkubfan
03-04-2019, 07:26 PM
Cool info Brett. I wonder if it includes the Friday numbers also?

Emerald Isle
03-04-2019, 07:40 PM
The Numbers are out.

from twitter nashcountydaily

Sold 20,000 Vinyl Boxed Sets on Thursday. Each Set Has 7 Records Available in 3 Packages (Analog, Remix-Remaster & Limited). 20,000 X 7 X 3 = 420,000 Vinyl Records Sold. Garth Wins at Life Again

And if each box also has 7 CDs then I guess that 420,000 number doubles for RIAA purposes.

jjlong79
03-14-2019, 09:43 AM
I like the idea of the vinyl sets but I do not have any way to play them. Because of that I cannot see myself paying that price for the set. What I would like are the CDís with the extra songs sold on their own as a separate set.

Emerald Isle
03-14-2019, 11:41 AM
I was right! Straight from Garth’s webpage:

“The LEGACY COLLECTION includes 3 boxed sets--The Limited, Original Analog, and Remixed/Remastered Editions. Each box includes 7 vinyl albums and 7 CDs with bonus tracks. Your special 6-digit number will be on each box, making it a one-of-a-kind collection.”

https://garthbrooks.com/vinyl

YouSoundBitter
03-14-2019, 03:27 PM
Yes, triple live bumps the count to 7!

Emerald Isle
03-14-2019, 04:11 PM
The question in the Studio G thread was whether there would be CDs in every box, or just the Limited Box. Some thought that they would only get 1 set of CDs between all 3 boxes. I interpreted Garth's comments to mean that each box would have 7 LPs and 7 CDs. Turns out I was correct, since right on Garth's own site it says each box will come with CDs. So that means that for each pre-order of the three boxes that Garth sells in these pre-sale windows, he will get 42 units counted toward his RIAA totals. Now if only he would include a free mp3 download of each disc as well, he could bump up that total to a whopping 63 units shipped for every one sale. (please detect my extreme sarcasm and eye-rolling).

One interesting thing about the wording of the description, though, is that it could mean that only the CDs will have the extra tracks, and not the LPs. Here's the exact wording from Garth's site: "Each box includes 7 vinyl albums and 7 CDs with bonus tracks." Thoughts?

Brett Dale
03-14-2019, 07:45 PM
The question in the Studio G thread was whether there would be CDs in every box, or just the Limited Box. Some thought that they would only get 1 set of CDs between all 3 boxes. I interpreted Garth's comments to mean that each box would have 7 LPs and 7 CDs. Turns out I was correct, since right on Garth's own site it says each box will come with CDs. So that means that for each pre-order of the three boxes that Garth sells in these pre-sale windows, he will get 42 units counted toward his RIAA totals. Now if only he would include a free mp3 download of each disc as well, he could bump up that total to a whopping 63 units shipped for every one sale. (please detect my extreme sarcasm and eye-rolling).

One interesting thing about the wording of the description, though, is that it could mean that only the CDs will have the extra tracks, and not the LPs. Here's the exact wording from Garth's site: "Each box includes 7 vinyl albums and 7 CDs with bonus tracks." Thoughts?

I take that to mean ONLY the Cd's will have the bonus tracks.

In terms of RIAA Numbers, my head is spinning, trying to work it out, and how the RIAA will certified this thing.

They have sold 20K units so far. They're having two more Sales day right?

One today and one in a few weeks????

So lets say all up, they sell 50K.

50000 X 63 = 3,150,000.

So 3,150,000 X 7= 22,050,000.

So Garth will get 22 million added to his RIAA Total????

Emerald Isle
03-14-2019, 08:36 PM
I take that to mean ONLY the Cd's will have the bonus tracks.

In terms of RIAA Numbers, my head is spinning, trying to work it out, and how the RIAA will certified this thing.

They have sold 20K units so far. They're having two more Sales day right?

One today and one in a few weeks????

So lets say all up, they sell 50K.

50000 X 63 = 3,150,000.

So 3,150,000 X 7= 22,050,000.

So Garth will get 22 million added to his RIAA Total????

The 63 number would only apply if Garth includes free mp3's of each album in each box. But THAT hasn't been advertised. So for now, we'll just assume that for everyone that orders all 3 boxes, Garth will get 42 units shipped.

So if he were to get 50,000 total preorders of all 3 boxes (42 discs total) through Hashtag's company, then that would be 50k preorders x 42 discs, and Garth would get 2.1 million units added to his RIAA totals.

rhd13
03-14-2019, 09:13 PM
There is an important element to this whole thing that I think we are missing. The key factor is HOW Garth chooses to certify this box. If he chooses to get the certification for the box as a whole then he has technically already moved 840,000 units by the RIAA rule (21 vinyls and 21 CDs for every person that has bought a set - 42 x 20,000). However, this would be a certification for "LEGACY" the box set and would in no way help The Chase/In Pieces to go Diamond or No Fences to go Double Diamond. The certification would be for THE BOX AS A WHOLE not the individual albums.

Historically Garth has had each individual album in his box sets certified individually. If that is the case then 20,000 people buying the 3-box set adds 120,000 to each album and 240,000 to Triple Live. The RIAA only certifies at 500,000 units (Gold) and each million milestone afternoon that (1 million, 2 million, etc.) Of course, we have no idea how close The Chase, In Pieces, No Fences, etc. are to the next 1 million milestone.

My suspicion, like many of you, is that he is going after moving several of his catalog albums up a step. If that is the case then this certification will be spread out over the individual records and not certified as the whole box.

Brett Dale
03-14-2019, 10:19 PM
The 63 number would only apply if Garth includes free mp3's of each album in each box. But THAT hasn't been advertised. So for now, we'll just assume that for everyone that orders all 3 boxes, Garth will get 42 units shipped.

So if he were to get 50,000 total preorders of all 3 boxes (42 discs total) through Hashtag's company, then that would be 50k preorders x 42 discs, and Garth would get 2.1 million units added to his RIAA totals.

Oh boy I was off then. 2.1 Million makes much more sense and that would take him to 150 Million!!!!!

Emerald Isle
03-14-2019, 10:58 PM
There is an important element to this whole thing that I think we are missing. The key factor is HOW Garth chooses to certify this box. If he chooses to get the certification for the box as a whole then he has technically already moved 840,000 units by the RIAA rule (21 vinyls and 21 CDs for every person that has bought a set - 42 x 20,000). However, this would be a certification for "LEGACY" the box set and would in no way help The Chase/In Pieces to go Diamond or No Fences to go Double Diamond. The certification would be for THE BOX AS A WHOLE not the individual albums.

Historically Garth has had each individual album in his box sets certified individually. If that is the case then 20,000 people buying the 3-box set adds 120,000 to each album and 240,000 to Triple Live. The RIAA only certifies at 500,000 units (Gold) and each million milestone afternoon that (1 million, 2 million, etc.) Of course, we have no idea how close The Chase, In Pieces, No Fences, etc. are to the next 1 million milestone.

My suspicion, like many of you, is that he is going after moving several of his catalog albums up a step. If that is the case then this certification will be spread out over the individual records and not certified as the whole box.

I agree! He’ll add the shipments to each individual album. Otherwise, why would he have picked these particlular albums, if not to move them each closer to Diamond status (and in No Fences’ case, closer to Double Diamond status)?!?

gbkubfan
03-14-2019, 11:05 PM
So much going on here. Most cds haven't been certified in years. So he will probably have enough to get The Chase up to Diamond. I am wondering if he will get the Bundle certified from Ghost Tunes, The Chase/In Pieces 25th anniversary, Christmas Together, Amazon/Ticketmaster Triple Live downloads, plus his streaming on Amazon, etc. The numbers will be interesting once he adds Legacy numbers. How high can he go? We probably won't know until November once Legacy is sent out, the stand alone Triple Live, etc.

Skywise
03-14-2019, 11:44 PM
Hmmm.... I gotta say, maybe I'm just not as much into the Numbers as some of y'all are, or as much as Garth is... We all know he's into the #'s game..

I will say this much (and lol- some online would maybe shocked t hear it come out of me :) ) I


I believe I was wrong- I went back to listen to Garth's words about the CD's on the set, etc. I was sure he'd talked about 7 cd's , not 7 with each set...

After a second listen, I think I was wrong- You are gonna be getting 3 different 'collections' of 7 CD's with the vinyl too, so 21 CD's in the 'set'..

I do think that the cd's are gonna be the 'pieces' of this legacy set that have bonus songs on them.. I'm only hoping that the 'bonus' songs aren't things that were already released (anonymous, this ain't tennessee, etc...) and truly are bonus songs....


But....

I got it wrong..

randa16
03-14-2019, 11:51 PM
https://chartmasters.org/2019/01/garth-brooks-albums-and-songs-sales/

Emerald Isle
03-15-2019, 12:21 AM
https://chartmasters.org/2019/01/garth-brooks-albums-and-songs-sales/

That’s a very interesting article. Thanks for posting!

randa16
03-15-2019, 12:30 AM
I found it looking for his album sales records. I don’t know what to think after reading it. Is he just all about money and legacy at this point? Does he care about new albums and getting hit singles? Have we all been duped?

Emerald Isle
03-15-2019, 12:47 AM
I found it looking for his album sales records. I don’t know what to think after reading it. Is he just all about money and legacy at this point? Does he care about new albums and getting hit singles? Have we all been duped?

I think he cares. We know he's still passionate about singles because he worked super hard to get AMHIK to #1. And he freakin' rented out the Cowboys' stadium and flew in radio station owners and producers from all over the country to launch BLLDAD. So yes, he cares.

Album-wise, I think he only truly has faith in the first 7 albums, and so he will try to repackage and resell those for the rest of his career. Anything Scarecrow on, he seems to resort to gimmicks to make them sell in high numbers, like bundling Gunslinger in the Ultimate Collection Box, or by including MAM and GS in the digital bundle, or by giving away free copies of Triple Live, including it in the book, and now throwing it in with the vinyl set on both LP and CD.

I think it's obvious he cares, so to speak, but I agree with you that at least part of that is driven by a sheer unquenchable lust for RIAA accolades and Platinum and Diamond awards.

I miss the days when he would just release an album and promote it and nothing else. No ulterior motives. No gimmicks to boost sales or shipment totals for the RIAA. No retailer exclusive deals to ensure that it "sells" 1 million copies. No packaging it with all the old songs. --- Just a new album with new songs that he couldn't wait to sing live. Man, I really miss that Garth!!

gbkubfan
03-15-2019, 12:53 AM
It was an interesting article. Very confusing since it included the TEA and SEA stuff. I don't think those have been certified by the RIAA yet so the numbers might be skewed. Will we ever really know? But it confirm that he is the top seller with 73 million per soundscan, not counting the McDonalds cd. I think the article would have been easier to understand for me if they would have seperated the USA/Canada totals from the worldwide. I can't believe the worldwide sales were so small. I know the countries are smaller but....Again, people can read the numbers anyway they want. randa16 great article. Thanks.

Charles
03-15-2019, 11:06 PM
stil PUMPED for the vinyl boxes!!!!!


I really hope the rest of the albums are going to be on vinyl as well. Sevens, Scarecrow, Gunslinger, Man Against Machine, Lost Sessions. I want them ALL!!!

Brett Dale
03-16-2019, 12:35 AM
I think he cares. We know he's still passionate about singles because he worked super hard to get AMHIK to #1. And he freakin' rented out the Cowboys' stadium and flew in radio station owners and producers from all over the country to launch BLLDAD. So yes, he cares.

Album-wise, I think he only truly has faith in the first 7 albums, and so he will try to repackage and resell those for the rest of his career. Anything Scarecrow on, he seems to resort to gimmicks to make them sell in high numbers, like bundling Gunslinger in the Ultimate Collection Box, or by including MAM and GS in the digital bundle, or by giving away free copies of Triple Live, including it in the book, and now throwing it in with the vinyl set on both LP and CD.

I think it's obvious he cares, so to speak, but I agree with you that at least part of that is driven by a sheer unquenchable lust for RIAA accolades and Platinum and Diamond awards.

I miss the days when he would just release an album and promote it and nothing else. No ulterior motives. No gimmicks to boost sales or shipment totals for the RIAA. No retailer exclusive deals to ensure that it "sells" 1 million copies. No packaging it with all the old songs. --- Just a new album with new songs that he couldn't wait to sing live. Man, I really miss that Garth!!

Im the same, just release a standalone album, I guess its the way things are done these days.

gbkubfan
04-13-2019, 11:29 AM
Skywise: I saw a photo on Garth Brooks Believers showing the Legacy set and the cds in the collection. It showed them on a sheet/page much like the Anthology's. This confused the hell out of me because I was interested in the trading/collecting aspect of the TL covers. So if there is no cover then I guess just the CD itself will have different photos? When Garth was talking about trading, he meant on the vinyl versions of TL? I really wish he would show the collection piece by piece so we can see what we bought.

gbkubfan
04-24-2019, 10:26 AM
The stats from Record Day 2019 shows vinyl sold 827,0000 during the period. Interesting that Garth sold just as many for LEGACY. The next period that vinyl does well is the Christmas season. The link I will post will have all the latest vinyl facts. I wonder if Garth will release the figures for LEGACY? That could really skew the sales during the second busiest sales period for vinyl. Maybe Garth is on to something. He could really skew his numbers for the RIAA. I can see hime packaging his first 7 albums in a boxed set called The First 7. Then a Diamond boxed set in vinyl. Then a boxed set called the second half with his other albums. A boxed set of the Christmas albums. He may not sell 10 million but it could really up the numbers. I know people aren't into repacking and the numbers but their is an audience for vinyl and he would just be reaching out to them. Maybe next year he will offer something on record day. Here is the link to teh article. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8508474/2019-record-store-day-historic-week-vinyl-album-sales I know the vinyl numbers aren't streaming numbers but still a great increase.

Brett Dale
04-24-2019, 07:36 PM
Im still not sure how the RIAA is going to count this thing.

How many has he sold???? Everyone who has ordered one, get all three boxes right??

Say for argument sake its one per customer?

How many actual people have bought this year, and how does the riaa count it.

Again if ya love Vinyl, this must be the greatest thing Garth has ever released!

Emerald Isle
04-24-2019, 08:23 PM
Im still not sure how the RIAA is going to count this thing.

How many has he sold???? Everyone who has ordered one, get all three boxes right??

Say for argument sake its one per customer?

How many actual people have bought this year, and how does the riaa count it.

Again if ya love Vinyl, this must be the greatest thing Garth has ever released!

I'm not sure how many orders there have been, but assuming that CDs will be included in each of the 3 boxes (which as shown earlier is what GarthBrooks.com says), then each box will have 14 discs (7 vinyl + 7 CDs) x 3 boxes per order, which means the RIAA will give him 42 units shipped for each single order.

Now when Garth says he's sold a million vinyl, I highly doubt he's saying he's received 1 million orders. Rather, I think he's fudging and saying a million discs have been ordered (including the CDs). If that's indeed how he's counting it, then if you divide 1 million by 42, that would mean he's received approx 23,810 orders. Now that's an amazing accomplishment in its own rite, so please don't think I'm minimizing it. I just really doubt he's received 1 million orders, because if that was the case, then he'd be able to add a whopping 42 million units to his RIAA tally once the boxes ship.

Brett Dale
04-24-2019, 10:41 PM
I'm not sure how many orders there have been, but assuming that CDs will be included in each of the 3 boxes (which as shown earlier is what GarthBrooks.com says), then each box will have 14 discs (7 vinyl + 7 CDs) x 3 boxes per order, which means the RIAA will give him 42 units shipped for each single order.

Now when Garth says he's sold a million vinyl, I highly doubt he's saying he's received 1 million orders. Rather, I think he's fudging and saying a million discs have been ordered (including the CDs). If that's indeed how he's counting it, then if you divide 1 million by 42, that would mean he's received approx 23,810 orders. Now that's an amazing accomplishment in its own rite, so please don't think I'm minimizing it. I just really doubt he's received 1 million orders, because if that was the case, then he'd be able to add a whopping 42 million units to his RIAA tally once the boxes ship.

That seems to make sense.

Anyway below is from his website.

The first window opened February 28th 60,000 full sets of numbered Legacy Collection boxes SOLD OUT in 18 hours!

The second window opened March 14th 43,000 boxes SOLD OUT in 24 hours!

720,000 total vinyls SOLD OUT in the first two windows!

Don’t miss a chance to pre-order YOUR numbered Legacy Collection set!

gbkubfan
04-25-2019, 12:35 AM
I am assuming that the albums and CDs will be counted by title. No Fences in each set will be counted as one so 4 per box set for No Fences. Just like the other boxed sets. I could be wrong.

Shellie
04-27-2019, 09:10 PM
According to this article, the last vinyl pre-sell window will be on May 1.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190425005903/en/Garth-Brooks-Mobile-Game-Debut-Words-Friends#.XMIupF1kTC8.twitter

Brett Dale
05-01-2019, 07:04 PM
So did it sell out in its third window? Was there any info about the bonus songs etc etc?

Skywise
05-01-2019, 07:15 PM
So did it sell out in its third window? Was there any info about the bonus songs etc etc?

hasn't opened yet- opens in about 45 minutes..

"...will open on that same day at 4PM PT"

Brett Dale
05-01-2019, 08:30 PM
Did it cut off at the end for anyone else? It stopped half way thru Garth talking.