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06-25-2001, 11:00 AM

just wondering.. who is going....


06-25-2001, 11:07 AM
Me and my wife Cathy, of course!

Jim :)

P.S. You mean the July 4th show and not the Songwriters Show on June 27th, right? :D

06-25-2001, 11:16 AM
Hi Jim and Cathy

yes I meant the Garth show. :)


Chris Gaines
06-25-2001, 12:00 PM
Cheaper for me to watch it on TV :)


06-25-2001, 01:57 PM
I AM!!!!! :D :D :D


06-25-2001, 04:43 PM
I am not going, unless something magical happens I just appear there all of a sudden. :p

06-25-2001, 05:04 PM
I'm going :) :) :)

Robin :) :)

06-25-2001, 08:15 PM
Some of us can't afford to travel accross the country to see him :(. Obviously if Garth is still doing all of this stuff, he is bored with his "retirement" ;). Maybe he will get the idea and go on tour again when his new album comes out (is it still coming??) :).

06-25-2001, 09:03 PM
nope, not going :mad: :(

Vanessa :)

06-26-2001, 01:02 AM
I'll be there.


06-26-2001, 02:26 AM
:) :) I'll be there :) :)

I can't believe this is happening!
I'm keeping it:cool: Low profile so they don't commit me!

but I'm leaving Monday for Philly:p


06-26-2001, 08:39 AM
...here's the official website for the Welcome America Celebration:


Everything that you need to know, including where to park, is on this site. The events begin on Wednesday, June 27th, and last until Garth's concert and the fireworks that follow on the Fourth!

We'll be heading down to the Art Museum this weekend to check things out, and we'll let you all know what's going on when we get back.

Jim :)

06-26-2001, 09:11 AM
oh... Jim

you are too kind... LOL


06-26-2001, 09:42 AM
Thanks Jim...I'll check that site when I get home. :)


06-26-2001, 12:29 PM
Thank you so much for posting the site, Jim! I can't wait...the countdown has started, LOL.


Chris Gaines
06-26-2001, 12:43 PM
It seems there will be some racial tention coming to Philly on the 4th of July.

I was checking out websites cause I was bored.. and this is what I found out.

Groups for the "Free Mumia Abu-Jamal" campain is bringing bussloads of people from New York City to Philly. For a demontration to begin about 11:30am EDT in Philly.

Mumia Abu-Jamal is a known cop-killer. And was sentenced to Death over a decade ago.

Here is infomation from www.officer.com

Sometimes it's HARD to solve a murder case.....
Sometimes, there are no witnesses. Sometimes, detectives and forensic scientists spend months, even years, piecing together the evidence.
Sometimes it's VERY easy.....
In 1981, Mumia Jamal was a Philadelphia Taxi Driver named Wesley Cook. Cook stood in the middle of a city street, in front of several witnesses, and shot Officer Daniel Faulkner in the back. The witnesses watched as Cook stood over the fallen officer and emptied his gun into the officer's face. Police arrived within moments, and Mumia was caught red-handed at the scene, the murder weapon still in his possession. The witnesses watched as the cold blooded killer was arrested and loaded into the back of a police wagon.

Cook was transported to the hospital, since the heroic officer had managed to draw his weapon and return fire before dying. Cook bragged to emergency room staff that he had shot the "pig", and that he hoped he was dead.

The murder weapon was registered to Wesley Cook himself. Ballistics test proved that this gun, recovered at the scene, fired the bullets that killed Officer Faulkner. The bullet removed from Wesly Cook was proven to have come from Officer Faulkner's service weapon.

The trial was called a "Prosecutor's Dream". Mumia had mountains of evidence and a parade of eyewitnesses stacked against him. There has never been even the slightest doubt that Mumia murdered Officer Faulkner. Not then, not now.

Sometimes there's a defense.....
There is no explanation being offered by the defense as to how anyone other than Wesley Cook, now known as "Mumia Jamal", could have possibly committed the murder. Mumia himself has never denied that he killed Officer Faulkner. He has hinted that it was self-defense, and has stated that Officer Faulkner was an oppressor of the people and that he deserved to die. Mumia's brother was present and witnessed the shooting, yet even his own brother does not deny that Mumia is the killer.

Sometimes there is remorse and compassion.....
There are over 3,000 people on death row today. Some of them have compelling stories to tell. Some of them were convicted under questionable circumstance. Some of them are remorseful. None of that applies to Mumia Jamal. Jamal has publicly advocated the murder of police officers. He has never retracted those statements, and has publicy taunted Officer Faulkner's widow.

Sometimes there are LIES.......
It's hard to believe how completely gullible some people can be. Here are some of the lies that Mumia supporters have used to trick people, like Ben Cohen, into supporting their cause...

LIE: Mumia did not receive a fair trial.
FACT: No judge has ever reviewed the case and found any fault with Mumia's trial. This case has been under a microscope for two decades, scutinized by scores of judges, and not a single one has ever formed the opinion that his trial was unfair. The PA Supreme Court, often bitterly divided, was UNANIMOUS in ruling that Mumia had received a fair trial, and they went so far as to take the unusual step of calling Mumia's defense claims "remarkable" and "incredible". They even chastised Mumia's defense in their written opinion, admonishing them for being untruthful in their arguments.

LIE: The Judge at Mumia trail was a racist who sentenced more black men to death than any other judge in the state.
FACT: Judges do not pass death sentences in the state of PA. Only juries can pass death sentences. Mumia was sentenced to death by a jury of his peers. The Judge in the case, Judge Sabo, was by no means a favorite of the appeals courts. They had overturned his decisions in previous trials on more than one occassion. His handling of the Mumia trial has been under a microscope for two decades. Every judge who has ever reviewed the case has upheld every one of his decisions in the Mumia trial. The PA Supreme Court went so far as to commend Sabo for maintaining order in his court room despite Mumia's attempts to turn it into a circus. The court also took the rare step of chastising Mumia's defense for making things up.

LIE: The jury that convicted Mumia was racially stacked against him.
FACT: 16 judges, including the PA Supreme Court, have ruled this to be untrue. The jury was a perfect reflection of Philadelphia at the time. And unlike most other criminals, Mumia actually had a chance to personally select his jury. Court record reveals that Mumia was granted total control over which questions to ask the jury and was able to control each of his 20 preemptory challenges.

LIE: Mumia was not allowed represent himself at his trial.
FACT: Mumia did act as his own defense. Mumia had no legal training and attempted to use the trial to make political statements. Judge Sabo appointed an experienced capital crime defense attorney to sit next to Mumia and advise him. Incredibly, Mumia objected to this.

LIE: Mumia is a political prisoner. He is the "Voice of the Voiceless", a famous radio personality and former black panther, the police framed him so they could silence him and his politically volatile message.
FACT: Mumia Jamal was just an unknown taxi driver named Wesley Cook when he murdered Officer Faulkner. It is highly unlikely that any of the arresting officer's had ever heard of him or of the late night radio show he had done on a college radio station years previous. If they had heard of him, it is extremely unlikely that they would have recognized his face from a radio show. It is nearly certain that none of those street cops were privy to FBI files that named Cook as a former member of the Black Panthers. The cops arrived at the scene within moments of the shooting and arrested Mumia on the spot. There was no time, nor the neccessity, to construct a frame up. Mumia became famous after he murdered Officer Faulkner.

LIE:Mumia's gun was a .38, while the bullet that killed Faulkner was a .44 cal.
FACT: Ballistics tests have proved beyond any doubt that Mumia's gun was the murder weapon. Even Mumia's defense-paid ballistics expert has admitted under oath that it was "probably" Mumia's gun which was the murder weapon. There is no ballistics evidence whatsoever to suggest otherwise. A medical examiner with no ballistics training recovered the bullet from Faulkner's body and guessed that it might have been a .44 cal. The defense has grasped at this off-hand comment as "proof" that Mumia was framed! The medical examiner has testified that he has no ballistics training and is not qualified to testify as to the calibre of the bullet.

LIE: Mumia's defense was given only $150 to prepare it's case, so he was unable to hire expert witnesses and investigators.
FACT: At the time, every defendant was given $150 to start with. What Mumia's supporters fail to mention is that Mumia was given $13,000.00 (about $36,000.00 in today's dollars), which he used to hire a criminologist, a ballistics expert, a personal court stenographer, several individuals functioning as "legal runners", and an investigator. This was well in excess of the customary level of support offered to a defendant accused of murder in Philadelphia in 1982.
From www.freemumia.com

Wednesday, July 4, 2001
Demonstrate for Mumia in Philadelphia!
Show the large crowds that Philadelphia is NOT the cradle of freedom. Demand freedom for Mumia Abu-Jamal.
Join us in colonial costume showing the people the presidents and founders of Philadelphia/America who owned slaves and what they and Philadelphia was really like in 1776! Also, dress like Frederick Douglass and prepare What to the Slave is Your Fourth of July?". Be creative!
Be ready to flyer, bring drums and instruments, props and your creativity!
11am meet at Philadelphia, City Hall; we will proceed around the city
Group meeting at 33rd St. and 8th Ave (main post office) and taking car pools and nj transit ($25 r/t); Everyone join us!
Free Mumia Abu-Jamal Coalition, NYC (212)330-8029

Just thought you all should know!!!!!!


06-26-2001, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the warning Jason, but I don't think that we should worry everyone coming to see Garth with such a detailed article as that. There's marches and demonstrations all the time downtown, so it's not really a big deal anymore.

Jim :)

Chris Gaines
06-26-2001, 01:13 PM
Well Jim...

I'm just posting what I found.. detailed or not.

They didn't pick this day for nothing.. ya know.

This guy *IS* a known cop-killer. (Shot him in the back.. wihout warning) kinda cowardly.


06-26-2001, 02:01 PM
I hope it doesn't end up like a situation in Huntsville last summer, with cops forcing un-armed white bystanders to get back in their vehicles and leave town, while allowing groups of african american protesters to march down main street with loaded shotguns, threatening to shoot any white person they saw if the execution of a convicted murderer was carried out. :eek:

06-26-2001, 02:27 PM
I think we're getting a little carried away here.

Caution is great. I'm all for that. As is knowing what is going on around you. Everyone's safety is the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. But having everyone thinking that all these demonstrators dressed in colonial outfits might be carrying shotguns instead of signs and banners is definitely wrong.

Wendi, I know you didn't say that, but some people may put two and two together and decide not to come to see the show. I don't want anyone to miss Garth because some more people are gonna demonstrate AGAIN downtown on this issue.

Jim :)

06-26-2001, 02:45 PM
I had a friend who went to the celebration last year, and she told me that you are allowed to bring coolers as long as there is no alcoholic beverages in them. Adn she suggested bringing lawn chairs so that you have more room so people don't crowd you too much. And she said to defintely be there early.

I don't know if the coolers are still allowed this year, but hopefully they will.


06-27-2001, 03:27 AM
I hope to be there too! I am about ready to jump out of my skin knowing that it is just a week away!:rolleyes: I can not believe that I have been given this chance again. I thought that I would never get the chance to see him in person again since the last Rosie show!:) I am just so excited! Ofcourse we have no plan as of yet, but we are awaiting his arrival and I can not believe he is going to be in my town!:)


06-27-2001, 01:46 PM
Of course I will be there!!! :D I'm with Jim...we'll be fine. Thanks for the concern though Jason. :)

I called the Museum this morning and as far as they know coolers and lawnchairs will be allowed just as they were last year. They also said that the parking lots around the Museum will be closed for the fireworks...the Museum itself is also closed that day.

Hey Donna, long time no hear! Is this the same Donna that was with us after SNL in '99?


06-28-2001, 09:35 PM
I think I said Me. I'm going!!!!!!!!:)

06-29-2001, 01:32 PM
I'm going!

And Jase... :rolleyes: Never mind, I'm not saying anything. Ain't I bein' good? :p

Can't wait to see you all there!
Hazel :D

06-29-2001, 04:18 PM
I will be there!!! What time is everyone going to get there?

07-01-2001, 08:12 PM

Yes, I'll be going to Philly unless a migraine crops up before Tuesday. Are any Garthboxers planning to meet perhaps for coffee? I'm bringing my camera so if anyone's going to need photos....just let me know.

:cool: :o :)

07-02-2001, 11:22 AM
Not here that much. I do come in and read the boards though.We will be there coming with my children and my husband.Hope to see some of you there.:)

07-03-2001, 05:34 PM
My best friend is coming from NYC to stay with me and we're going. I've got jitters, I'm so excited. It's been so long since Sept 98.

07-03-2001, 05:46 PM
Mary Liz

07-05-2001, 10:56 PM
I came and did not go.....made it only to the hotel where I remained with a migraine until time to go home. But you get used to it. Guess I blew my vacation $$$ for the year too.


Pretty embarassing though when you have to barf outside the hotel so their carpet doesn't get soiled. But when you get migraines you take the bad with the bad. And all Sam does is worry about picking his nose.

07-05-2001, 11:54 PM
Carol ~

I am so sorry a migraine struck and you missed the celebration! :( Maybe a better opportunity is in the works and there'll be no migraine next time! :)

Mary Liz